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Tokyo Joe
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posted 29 March 2001 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tokyo Joe   Click Here to Email Tokyo Joe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From reports that I have read there is a war going on in both countries for control of capacity (fibre). I have however heard that India will be the Programming capitol of the world, Even BT have a major programming precence there already.

My thoughts are that with fewer than three in every 100 indians having access to a phone and a 4.5 year waiting list (one of the longest in the world), counteracted with the fact that India has just passed the 1 Billion people mark..the opportunity has to exist .It makes you think doesnt it? The reality is that the 6 major bandwidth players need conferencing, to add to their portfolios so get in there.


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I would join you, given half a chance. It will take a little time to increase the PC density/Literacy density and indeed the Tele density. Or on the other hand if Net on Cable takes off, there are already 38 million homes connected. Big opportunities to work from home which only increases the opportunity for conference suppliers.

Leading ISP there like Mantra, only have 16-45mbps spectranet with broadband players such as BPL only boasting 8Mbps.

Thailand on the other hand has a new Prime Minister the Shin Corp chief Thaksin Shinawatra, and a desparate need to appont a new telecommunications regulatory commitee, will it be an independant body or a politcal one?

Bottom line is the fact that there are two great opportunities opening up. :spaz:

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Yoshitaka Fujiwara
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posted 02 April 2001 07:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yoshitaka Fujiwara   Click Here to Email Yoshitaka Fujiwara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Joe, Japan must be the next big market in the very near future, of course.

When the issues between a giant NTT and other telecom carriers are resolved, and/or when broadband infrastructures are cleared up and reconstructed, a huge market will be revealed suddenly in Japan.

Basic business structure:
B2B market is leaded by ISDN direct link, partially by IP videoconferencing inside LAN.

B2C market is developed via Internet by IP videoconferencing.

Very core technology:
gateway services by MCU will realize B2B2C markets.

We have 46 million households in Japan.


Yoshitaka Fujiwara


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Carl L Gough
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posted 04 April 2001 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Carl L Gough   Click Here to Email Carl L Gough     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In your opinion Fujiwara san, how is the education iof the market best approached.
Is it such that the corporate take up should be done first followed by B2C...

There is definately a lot of work to be done here in Japan on the education front. How would you begin doing this.?

What are your thoughts on India and Thailand as the next areas of business for conferencing?

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Carl L Gough
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posted 04 April 2001 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Carl L Gough   Click Here to Email Carl L Gough     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ps..I am also Tokyo Joe.


When will the conferencing vendors click that there is potential here.

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Yoshitaka Fujiwara
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posted 05 April 2001 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yoshitaka Fujiwara   Click Here to Email Yoshitaka Fujiwara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do I approach the education market?...tough question, Carl.

I can tell you a case:
NOVA, which manage foriein language conversation schools all over Japan, IPO corporation, have been testing to do their lessons via videoconferencing for these 5 years or so, and now they have just started them at business base.

They developed their own systems(OEM by N?? company), and their own multiconferencing sites(Ginga Net).

I have checked their videoconferencing lesson and I think it is comfotable and efficient for those who can not access the school easily.

Bottom line: broadband has to be a keyword, I believe.

Yoshitaka Fujiwara

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Yoshitaka Fujiwara
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posted 05 April 2001 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yoshitaka Fujiwara   Click Here to Email Yoshitaka Fujiwara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Carl:
What are your thoughts on India and Thailand as the next areas of business for conferencing?

I have no idea about those countries because I have never been there except newspapers or so.

It is true that many Asian countries are developing now.

Infrastructure among those countries is the key point.

Just the big and next area of business for conferencing is Japan, exactly!

Yoshitaka Fujiwara

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Carl L Gough
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posted 10 April 2001 03:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Carl L Gough   Click Here to Email Carl L Gough     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Yoshitaka Fujiwara:
Carl:
What are your thoughts on India and Thailand as the next areas of business for conferencing?

I have no idea about those countries because I have never been there except newspapers or so.

It is true that many Asian countries are developing now.

Infrastructure among those countries is the key point.

Just the big and next area of business for conferencing is Japan, exactly!

Yoshitaka Fujiwara



Fujiwara san,

As I mentioned above, there is a great opportunity that exists in both of these countries, India for example is the programming capitol of the world, with that in mind , and when infrastructure barriers are lifted, or placed whichever comes first, then the market will be "ripe for the picking"
Thaoland is in a similar position with the change og leadership , Once an appointed telecommunications regulatory commitee is elected, then we all should look towards expanding there.

I dont have any figures on business that operate there, But im sure some one does here.

Im staying here in Tokyo. Gut feeling.

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Sandy
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posted 24 April 2001 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sandy   Click Here to Email Sandy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To see H VISA static in USA, USA company "import" many Indian engineers.

What will happen next is co-development with Indian company will increase dramatically.

It's a chance for VC company to sell products to Indian company with guarantee to connect their USA customers.

Sandy

For Thiland, some company have already moved their factory to Vietnam or others.
So I'm not sure it's good timing, though.

China I believe there are huge markets.

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AndyN
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posted 25 April 2001 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AndyN   Click Here to Email AndyN     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FWIW, First Virtual Communications now has 13 developers that are based in India - this trend, of course, is not unique to FVC.

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Sandy
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posted 26 April 2001 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sandy   Click Here to Email Sandy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Andy.
Yes, I agree this is a trend of IT industry.
How about other industries?

I think timing of sales of VC is depends on target industry.
For example, Toy makers' factory is more agressive than IT industry. It means before IT industry move factory to Vietnum, there is a chance to sell system to Toy factories.

Off course, there must be infrastructure problem,though.

Sandy Tanaka

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