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Topic: Anyone using Codian MCU?
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MikeP
Sr. Member Posts: 107
From: Tracy, CA USA
Since: Jan 2001
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posted 18 July 2005 05:53 PM
   
I seem to be out the loop WRT to Lifesize control? Can I get a URL to go to see what this is? Can it control (and what does that mean?) Radvisions (ECS, ViaIP's, GW, etc)? how does it do these controls (SNMP? Web? Other?)? I also have a Codian and am interested in that as well...but can wait till Q3 or 4. Mike
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jont
Sr. Member Posts: 167
From: Cambridge, United Kingdom
Since: Feb 2002
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posted 21 July 2005 05:03 AM
HiWe dont have a working online demo just yet (stay tuned) but you can request a free 3 endpoint demo version from your local reseller who will ensure you get a copy to play with. Best Wishes Jon IP: Logged |
stancol
Member Posts: 27
From: Grand Island, NE, USA
Since: Apr 2006
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posted 13 April 2006 10:59 AM
FY: We were involved in a state wide conference that encluded a couple of Polycom MGC's and at least one Codian Box. We didn't have to setup any special gateways or do anything with alias's to get it to work. Each endpoint conneced with out any pixlization over 2 or 3 different networks. One network was private (10.) behind the Polycom MGC and another was out on the public internet. Polycom MGC handeled the routing between the private network and the public internet just fine. All went well with no suprises. Looks to me like the integrate with each other just fine. Tech that was using the Codian did make mention about the slow updating of information on the html interface.IP: Logged |
Sean Lessman
Sr. Member Posts: 810
From: Reston, VA USA
Since: Sep 2002
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posted 13 April 2006 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by jont:
We will be supporting Codian 42xx series MCUs in the forthcoming v1.2 release (scheduled for Q3/4) this year.
Jon, Was this version released in Q3/Q4 of 2005? Sean
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kia123
Member Posts: 2
From: Rivonia, Gauteng, South Africa
Since: May 2006
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posted 05 May 2006 11:51 AM
Hi All,We recently investigated the Codian product range to resell. During evaluation of some products (MCU4210 and IPVCR 2210) I was amazed at the simplicity and ease to configure the unit. The only challenge I experienced was configuring the IP address via the consol port(No DB-9 COM port on my laptop)(Sarcastic tone, stupid laptop). The functionality and feature set is absolutely amazing on both products. What impressed me the most was the response of the Codian support team. While testing the IPVCR, I experienced some H.239 interoperability issues with our Polycom MGC. When Codian arrived for a visit, a brief mention of the problem was all it took. One day later, imagine my surprise to find a patch already loaded on the IPVCR to address the problem. And guess what, it worked. All I can say is: Codian boys, well done. IP: Logged |
czoli
Sr. Member Posts: 1469
From: italy
Since: May 2003
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posted 05 May 2006 12:37 PM
Great!I find it important that good experiences like yours are posted too and not only the problems about the products.  I agree with you, their support is simply outstanding.
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Originally posted by kia123:
Hi All,We recently investigated the Codian product range to resell. During evaluation of some products (MCU4210 and IPVCR 2210) I was amazed at the simplicity and ease to configure the unit. The only challenge I experienced was configuring the IP address via the consol port(No DB-9 COM port on my laptop)(Sarcastic tone, stupid laptop). The functionality and feature set is absolutely amazing on both products. What impressed me the most was the response of the Codian support team. While testing the IPVCR, I experienced some H.239 interoperability issues with our Polycom MGC. When Codian arrived for a visit, a brief mention of the problem was all it took. One day later, imagine my surprise to find a patch already loaded on the IPVCR to address the problem. And guess what, it worked. All I can say is: Codian boys, well done.
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MikeP
Sr. Member Posts: 107
From: Tracy, CA USA
Since: Jan 2001
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posted 06 May 2006 01:20 PM
Ditto:-) IP: Logged |
Senthil
Sr. Member Posts: 299
From: India
Since: Aug 2004
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posted 07 May 2006 09:40 AM
hi allyes of course the support is excellent. Senthil IP: Logged |
WallStreet_VC
Member Posts: 1
From: New York, NY USA
Since: Apr 2006
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posted 09 May 2006 03:47 PM
We are doing only internal network (non-streaming) corporate video conferencing. I noticed people where talking about the Codian being good for Internet...any thoughts for the private networks?We currently have a MGC-25 that is not great...looking to go HD next year, have plently of internal bandwidth and want to be able to do 3-6 HD endpoints in a bridge. Thanks. Andrew IP: Logged |
MikeP
Sr. Member Posts: 107
From: Tracy, CA USA
Since: Jan 2001
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posted 09 May 2006 04:01 PM
I don't know about HD....but the Codian gives us great quality and can run up to 4 Meg per port. We have plenty of BW, so it would be similar for your internal network.Mike IP: Logged |
stancol
Member Posts: 27
From: Grand Island, NE, USA
Since: Apr 2006
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posted 09 May 2006 06:22 PM
Just wondering....what's not so good about your MGC-25?IP: Logged |
Senthil
Sr. Member Posts: 299
From: India
Since: Aug 2004
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posted 09 May 2006 11:50 PM
hi
we deployed codian in public(internet)network with the minimum bandwidth.The quality is very good.If you have intranet sure you have enough bandwidth and the quality will be good.senthil IP: Logged |
bradf
Member Posts: 13
From:
Since: May 2007
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posted 25 May 2007 03:35 PM
Sorry to dig up an old thread, but I was wanting to verify if something that czoli stated earlier in the thread was still valid. If it is true that you can upgrade just for the price difference, how is that handled? Is the hardware swapped or is it upgradeable? I'm specifically thinking about the 4210, 4215, 4220.Thanks! czoli said: "Codian Expensive? or with hight Operational Cost? Come on .. do you really know that Codian is the only, ONLY vendor in the VC industry that will let you buy the smaller system and upgrade it pay'ng only the difference? You could buy a 12 ports MCU now, the move to 20 or 30 and then to a Big chassis MSE8000 with HD blades. Your investement won't be lost. IP: Logged |
kevinb
Sr. Member Posts: 78
From:
Since: Apr 2004
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posted 25 May 2007 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by bradf:
If it is true that you can upgrade just for the price difference, how is that handled?
Hi Brad, There are very simple upgrade programmes. If you get in touch with your local Codian rep they can go through the specifics with you. If you drop me an email I can put you in touch with the correct person. Many Thanks!
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TEG
Sr. Member Posts: 453
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Since: Oct 2004
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posted 30 May 2007 11:24 AM
Codian is an operated MCU. They do not have good features on automations requirements you where mentionning.
Best in class for that is TANDBERG.IP: Logged |
JamesR
Sr. Member Posts: 400
From: Uk
Since: Jun 2002
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posted 30 May 2007 11:26 AM
quote:
Originally posted by TEG:
Codian is an operated MCU. They do not have good features on automations requirements you where mentionning.
Best in class for that is TANDBERG.
I would of said that 1 month ago but now they have released conference director for the 4500 I would of said that it is a better managed platform than the TANDBERG. Do you disagree? IP: Logged |
orish
Sr. Member Posts: 201
From:
Since: May 2003
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posted 30 May 2007 12:12 PM
> Codian is an operated MCU. They do not have good
> features on automations requirements you where
> mentionning. Best in class for that is TANDBERG.TEG - did you checked a Codian MCU for automation requirements live? Did you checked Conference Director / Codian Management Platform live? I think not - otherwise you wouldnt write something like above...You do know TB but do you know Codian?? IP: Logged |
czoli
Sr. Member Posts: 1469
From: italy
Since: May 2003
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posted 30 May 2007 01:40 PM
TEG does not really know Codian prodcuts .. just second hand informations coming from tandberg and the likesHe the FUD Target and propeller, you know quote:
Originally posted by orish:
> Codian is an operated MCU. They do not have good
> features on automations requirements you where
> mentionning. Best in class for that is TANDBERG.TEG - did you checked a Codian MCU for automation requirements live? Did you checked Conference Director / Codian Management Platform live? I think not - otherwise you wouldnt write something like above...You do know TB but do you know Codian??
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czoli
Sr. Member Posts: 1469
From: italy
Since: May 2003
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posted 30 May 2007 01:43 PM
Codian has APIs too and there are no standards for remote MNGT and Automation .. just saying XML means nothing ... it is just a wrapper to send and receive messages .. exactly like saying "telnet" or webservices or http .. let's stop this marketing bullshiits of tandberg = standards when using propietary APIs (over XML) like every vendor. Once we will have an ITU standard to adhere too ... another story .. but let's stop it quote:
Originally posted by Sean Lessman:
FYI, the TANDBERG MPS, MXP, Gatekeeper and TMS all support a XML API interface. You can write your own front end for any of our products. TANDBERG has always been very proud of our adherence to standards.TANDBERG has also provided a fully developed open API for every product we have brought to market. Sean
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Joe Vallender
Sr. Member Posts: 69
From: Chicago, IL, USA
Since: Nov 2004
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posted 30 May 2007 05:10 PM
You're quoting a 2004 posting??!?!?!?! Seems like you're bent on keeping the pot stirred up.IP: Logged |
stancol
Member Posts: 27
From: Grand Island, NE, USA
Since: Apr 2006
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posted 30 May 2007 05:40 PM
I'm a died in the wool Polycom MGC-100 dude but it's starting to look more and more like we might go Codian. Biggest factor is that you don't lose ports when you add bandwidth. We have close to DS3 between campus locations but can only go between 768 and 384 because we overload the MGC-100 (in it's present configuration). If it wasn't for losing ports when you up the speed I wouldn't even be looking at Codian.I do have a question. Somebody mentioned that Codian doesn't do automation? Can't really live without automation now that we're used to it with the MGC-100. How are people handling that or are they? Also wanted to make a point I think was posted earlier in this thread. If I recall correctly it was a comment about MGC's being bad at Internet vs. Intranet. My experience with the MGC working more than one network has been a dream. We can keep one network public and the other private. That way we keep ALL or codacs away from prying eyes but still can facilitate conferences with outside sources. It's also nice because we only need one public IP address to handle ALL the internal codacs. IP: Logged |
scrooge
Member Posts: 2
From: Zurich, Switzerland
Since: Oct 2006
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posted 30 May 2007 06:47 PM
We work now over a year with the 42 series and are very pleased. Had a demo / test session yesterday with the new 45 HD machine. Killer!
Realy impressing - also in a not fully HD environment.IP: Logged |
JamesR
Sr. Member Posts: 400
From: Uk
Since: Jun 2002
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posted 31 May 2007 04:18 AM
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Originally posted by scrooge:
We work now over a year with the 42 series and are very pleased. Had a demo / test session yesterday with the new 45 HD machine. Killer!
Realy impressing - also in a not fully HD environment.
I only know one large company that is fully HD. Stancol to answer your question. We have like you do a MGC100 and 4 codian 4200's with conference director. The first thing you will notice is how similar Conference director is to MGC manager. Also you will notice the lack of "clutter" because there are no "cards" you do not have those options. only scheduled calls and current calls. To set up automation is easier on this platform aswell. Of course it has its own issues but I would now say after having codian MCU's for a year that the codian beats the MGC in almost every way! The only problem with it is you cannot have 41 sites in a call at once! IP: Logged |
czoli
Sr. Member Posts: 1469
From: italy
Since: May 2003
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posted 31 May 2007 05:53 AM
1.2.1 has been released weeks ago quote:
Originally posted by JamesR:
Hi Jon,Do you guys have a Demo running on the web?
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penroy
Sr. Member Posts: 279
From: Australia
Since: May 2005
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posted 31 May 2007 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by martins:
we also tested the codian mcu in combination with tandberg hw endpoints and polycom software endpoints. the device seems to be best in classdoes anyone know a good outlook integration feature which supports this codian mcu´s? regards Martin
Codian have anounced Outlook integration for CMP recently http://www.codian.com/downloads/Codian-Scheduler-Datasheet.pdf IP: Logged |
czoli
Sr. Member Posts: 1469
From: italy
Since: May 2003
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posted 01 June 2007 06:47 AM
It is just incorrect.Codian MCUs do have a built in scheduler and there is an external scheduler named CMP which is NOT a new wannabe product but has been developed and sold by a company which codian acquired. As others also reported you can use the Codian Conference Director which is like the MGC Manager. For Lifeize customers the LifeSize Control do control Codian MCUs too. Lack of automation is simply a Tandberg originated FUD. quote:
Originally posted by stancol:
I do have a question. Somebody mentioned that Codian doesn't do automation? Can't really live without automation now that we're used to it with the MGC-100. How are people handling that or are they?
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